guns belong in the hands of law enforcement, and they shouldn't be carried, as far as i'm concerned, by civilians in an environment like a college campus, a grade school, anyplace elsewhere that weapon could be employed in the wrong way, could be stolen, could be lost. martin, i think it is ludicrous to bring guns on campus, and i don't care -- i'm a vietnam veteran, an fbi veteran. i still don't think i or anybody else, unless it's my job, should be carrying a gun on a college campus. >> well, your words, clint, come with great authority. clint van zandt, thank you so much. i want to bring in democratic congressman joe courtney of connecticut now. good afternoon, sir. >> good afternoon, martin. >> i wondered if i could get your immediate reaction to what you've just heard and what we're hearing about this shooting in houston. >> well, as chris said, the velocity of these events, one after another, just since newtown at the end of 2012 really shows that we have a very unstable situation in terms of the gun violence in this country. the president yesterday i think again powerfully men